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8/6/09 10:31 P

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Hi all,
I've got PCOS too and while my upper lip just has a little bit of hair growth I have a pretty dark (I'm fair skinned and dark haired) beard that grows in on my neck. I was to my dermatologist about a month and a half ago and I asked him about it. He recommended the laser treatment. I had my first treatment about a month ago and it is THE BEST investment in my appearance I'll ever make. Now, granted, I think their office does the treatments cheaper than most places but I got a super deal and it WORKS. My neck is soft and smooth and it is 10:30 pm! No more pricklies!

I'm a huge fan.

I don't want to knock Nair or any other type of facial hair removal cream. They didn't work for me but I have very thick, dark, coarse hair. I know they work well on some finer hairs which is awesome if you have that kind of hair! A caution on laser...it works best on hair that is dark and skin that is light, the laser can grab on to the pigment better. It is a bit painful (on certain areas, like my upper lip, on my neck and chest it didn't hurt at all) and kind of annoying (repetitive) but it is nowhere near as painful or annoying as waxing or using an epilady, at least in my opinion.

As for if it every goes away...I was told it will lessen but that since the hair follicle has been stimulated it won't every really really go away. So in lieu of this I figured that laser really is the way to go and I have every intention of doing every part of my body that can be lasered.

Sorry it's long winded but I'm chatty. Hope it helps :)



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I have an upper lip problem. My boyfriend of 6 years says that he has never noticed it, but i think he is just being nice.lol. At least I've noticed it...

I have tried waxing, and that's PAINFUL!

So one night i picked up some nair facial cream, and I absolutly love it. I put it on for 5 minutes, and wiped it away, and i was totally skeptical at first, but i was so ESTATIC that it worked! I haven't had a mustache for like a month!

LOVE IT!



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Wow I so thought I was the only person with this problem. It is so so embarrissing! Nothing like a women having facial hair and other parts of their bodies. It sucks!

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following what star said.....I have now lost a total of about 110 lbs. I noticed a slight change but not significant to make a diff. So maybe if it goes away for some then it was a symptom and if not then heritage? Idk all i believe is laser removal is probably the only way to get rid of it

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I have all of the symptoms of PCOS (and have for around 4 years, or 100 pounds), but I don't have PCOS. Being overweight can cause all of the symptoms of PCOS, but in my experience, they go away when your body starts producing normal hormones. I lost 40 pounds a couple of years ago and the hair on my face became lighter and more sparse. I also have skin darkening on my neck from an insulin resistance that goes away when I lose weight and gets worse when I gain weight.

I wouldn't worry about it until you reach your goal and still have the problem. If you're worried about PCOS, the best physician to see is an endocrinologist. People (non-experts) told me for years that I MUST have it because I have all the symptoms, but I had to have surgery to remove an ovary that got twisted around, so they got a great view of both of them - the only true way to know whether or not you have it, is for them to look inside the ovary for the cysts!

So don't freak out and start thinking you have PCOS just yet, and know that there is a possibility that it's purely hormone-related due to being overweight and will stabilize. :)

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5/23/09 8:24 A

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I have facial hair also. But everyone in my family does. We are Italian. That might be why. . It is a pain to deal with waxing and all but I do it.

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5/22/09 2:58 P

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OK I got one worse than facial hair...chest hair!! Yikes! It's not like a manly patch or anything, but it is dark, black stray hairs. It's so embarassing. I try really really hard to keep up with it (and my happy trail), but one time my boyfriend saw one that I didn't...I almost died!!!



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5/21/09 3:02 P

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I also have a problem with facial hair.. i just wax it or pluck it. I don't have pcos or anything i just think that i am hairy because of my heritage.

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5/9/09 11:51 P

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I too have PCOS (surprise!) and I have to say that I debated getting laser for the longest time but it is the best thing I have ever done. Razors are expensive and the laser really isn't that expensive. I paid $150/session for my whole face which included chin/neck upper/lower lip cheeks/sideburns and a small patch between my eyebrows where I sometimes grow hair. You go in once every 6-8 weeks and really you don't have to do much between sessions. As your next session gets close the hair starts growing back so you need to shave a few times (you must shave to get laser, waxing and tweezing wont work) but then you get your session and its gone for weeks. Because my hair is particularly stubborn I had to get 8 sessions (most people need about 4-6) and I still have to go once a year for touch ups and new hair growth due to the pcos and additional weight gain. I think if I lost the weight and got laser and actually stayed thin I would stop needing the laser touch ups. It is the best thing I have ever done. I used to wax and tweeze all the time and it was a nightmare. I would lock myself up because I wouldn't want people to see me with my excess facial hair. I was disgusted with myself. Now I don't even think about it ever. Every now and then I might catch a stray hair and I know that it will be picked up at some point when I go touch up but seriously, the odd hair on your face compared to the almost beard I had is seriously night and day. Not to mention how much less I have to pay for wax and razors etc.

I plan on getting my entire body lasered when I can afford it. Some laser places also have specials if you pay for all your treatments at once or buy one area get another free and stuff like that. There are laser hair removal forums that I read to find out about it before I did but I am so happy I did.

Oh and as far as losing weight and facial hair decreasing. It is possible and I lost a lot of weight before and saw a mild decrease in facial hair but really once the hair grows its pretty much there and going to keep coming back. Androgen levels will decrease with the weight loss which generally prevents new hair from growing but you would need something like spironalactone and maybe vaniqua combined to slow down/stop facial hair growth.

Facial hair really sucks!

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4/26/09 1:45 P

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I have this problem too! It sucks! I have to shave every other day (would everyday but then I get ingrown hairs). I tried to wax but it didn't work, it didn't pull the hair off! I have had this problem since I was 10 and started menstruating.


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since I've gained weight I have also noticed that I have more stray hair, in really embrassing places..say few stray strands lower stomach, and under my chin, I pluck them away when I notice. but it's a pain in the but. I have no clue if I have pcos or anything like that but I am sure that I was pre-diabetic.



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I don't know about PCOS but most fat guys I've met have been rather hairy. Myself included... my poor back emoticon I was beginning to wonder if it was linked, myself. I remember one success story I read, a guy lost 100lbs to join the military. I think he got more hairy after he lost the weight, I hope that doesn't happen to me emoticon

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4/22/09 6:07 P

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oh my goodness, I have the same issue! I waxed all of it off-ouch. but it is growing back. on the plus side, it is growing back thinner and softer. Now, I am just maintaining with tweezers. It sucks, but I hate facial hair. It makes me self-conscious, or I should say more self-conscious, lol.

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I am late but you should visit an endocrinologist. They basically help you out with hormonal imbalances and try to figure out a solution. I too thought I had a PCOS or do not sure. However, my endo told me he wouldn't diagnose me with it just yet because he can't oversee the bigger issue which is my weight problem. I know facial hair is a PITA but what I do is I trim it with a tiny scissors since anything else will cause me acne (yes I have hair and acne) and it does the trick I am acne a hair free. However, I have noticed that eating better and exercising is helping my skin with acne free. As for the facial hair I hope it goes away but I also come from a hairy family LOL!

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I don't really know if I have PCOS. I've lost 28 lbs so far and I still have a hair issue on my chin :|, though I've noticed the dark areas I used to have on my underarms are gone (yay! ...though that may have to do with my ETL diet). I don't think it'll go away until I lose about another 50 lbs ..that's when I started getting the problem.

Anyway, the smooth away is a POS; it's basically a razor on a pad that takes twice as long as shaving. Not a good investment.
I've always tweezed, I love tweezing but for the neck it can be a PITA.

GET AN EPILATOR. You will fall inlove with it, I promise. It's basically a bunch of tweezers on a hand held machine that go really fast and can take off a bunch of hair. You won't have to epilate for days, and the more you do it ..the days go to weeks and etc. You can use it anywhere. There's some pain but you get used to it quick (like tweezing) and, good Lord, is it worth it.

Hope this helps

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3/27/09 11:42 A

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One of the sad things about PCOS, is that some doctors don't recognize it as "real" yet...but many do. And big advances have been made since I was diagnosed a few years back. In '04, many insurance companies would not cover anything related to PCOS because they considered it "fertility" treatment...but that's been improving as well.

We should all be having regular check-ups or at least yearly exams with our doc or OBGYN...it'd probably be a good thing to mention at your next visit. Good luck with it! It's not a for-sure life sentence! It's something that can be controlled and symptoms improved...so don't panic if you are diagnosed!

Great info, gals!

(And about the smooth away...I guess it might not work for everyone, but I LOVE it! And, yeah, most stores are carrying it now for around $9.99...it was originally $15 ish...)


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3/27/09 11:14 A

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Im stealhty like that what can I say...



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3/27/09 10:40 A

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looks like Ashley and I must have been replying at the same time :-)

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Here is a snipet about PCOS from an article:
What is polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS)?
Polycystic ovary syndrome (say "pah-lee-SIS-tik OH-vuh-ree SIN-drohm") is a problem in which a woman’s hormones are out of balance. It can cause problems with your periods and make it difficult to get pregnant. PCOS may also cause unwanted changes in the way you look. If it is not treated, over time it can lead to serious health problems, such as diabetes and heart disease.

Polycystic ovary syndrome (or PCOS) is common, affecting as many as 1 in 15 women.

Click here to read the full article...
http://women.webmd.com/tc/polycystic-ova
ry-syndrome-pcos-topic-overview

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PCOS stands for Poly-cystic Ovarian Syndrome. Very litterally it its lots of little cysts in your ovaries. It is diagnosed in about 1 in 20 women but actually about 1 in 10 have it. It can cause a whole TON of issues, irregular periods, digestive problems, diabetes, metabolic disorders, weight gain, extra body hair, infertility (its the leading cause of infertility)... the funny thing(funny ironic not funny haha) about pcos is these symtoms CAUSE PCOS but are also CAUSED BY PCOS...its like a weird circle. For instance weight gain causes pcos (that is why many women on spark have it) BUT PCOS causes weight gain. I know a TON abotu the disorder (thats what happens when your mommy is a doctor and you grew up in hospitals and clinics) so if you ever want more info just ask.

WOW that was WAY LONG sorry...haha




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Ok so I have no idea what PCOS is? Just a wild guess here but I have a feeling it causes women to have facial hair, but what is it? How do you know you have it? Does it affect anything else, like other health related issues? I guess I just want the skinny on PCOS!

Thanks Guys!

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I have PCOS too! I just found out a few weeks ago. My mom (who I think also has it) and I both struggle with unwanted facial hair. I am really sensitive to wax and creams, but Avon sells a Skin So Soft home wax kit that for whatever reason I can use. If I go to a waxing salon, I stay red for WEEKS, literally weeks. If I am not up for a home wax, which I have gotten pretty good at, I just tweeze.

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I know I've been stuck with it since it started. I've lost 50lbs in a period of 3 months, and then gained 30 lbs back in a period of 6 months and the hair is still there. Embarrasing!! It sucks, I hate it, but what can I do.

I too have PCOS by the way!

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but does it ever go away on it's own or are you stuck with tweezers and lasers?

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smooth away doesn't really work i did a patch on my arm and nothing come off

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I haven't tried the smoothaway product, but just to let everyone know, I saw it at my Target the other day when I was there.

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Yeah, this is probably the worst thing about PCOS for me...(if you haven't been tested for PCOS, I'd ask your doctor...if you aren't that familiar with it, it is basically pre-diabetes in some form or another with hormonal, metabolism and cycle problems as some symptoms...)

If you have PCOS or some sort of hormonal imbalance (such as too much testosterone, which is common in overweight women, especially those with PCOS)...some medications, (such as Metformin/Glucophage) can really help some of the symptoms. Your doctor would know what's best and if that's the way to go.

The best way to treat ANY symptom of PCOS or obesity is by losing weight...even with just a 10% loss, you can see big changes in things....and I have.
Not with the hair, yet...but I'm hopeful that that will change at least some when I'm out of the obese range...we'll have to see!

In the mean time, dealing with it can be a pain (quite literally)...but there are plenty of methods to rid yourself of that unwanted hair...

obviously, as mentioned, tweazing is usually the easiest...
For a bit of extra money, there are tweazerz with a light in them...I don't have them, but I want them. Even if just for my eyebrows! They'd make finding the exact place of the hair easier...

Also, have you seen/tried those "personal touch" type of razor/hair removal things? They are about the size of a pen and run on AA batteries. I LOVE this tool...I have 3. One for face, one for more private areas and one I keep in my purse (in case I ever end up somewhere or with someone and need to make sure my chin is clear quickly! haha)
They are soo painless...as long as the Batteries aren't dead! haha And they work very quickly. Then I just tweaze some of the hair that is under the skin a bit...coax it to the surface with a warm cloth...to get rid of the smaller tricky hairs...

Also...there is that new Smooth Away that's "as seen on tv"...that's also a great product! It comes with a little part that fits over your index finger for use on the chin and upper lip...they even advertise it for use that way! (I LOVE the big one for my legs, too, btw!seriously leaves them SOOO smooth and it's sooo painless!)

When I get to my ideal weight and this problem still remains, which I hope sooo much it doesn't, I'm going to look into the lazer hair removal...

Ok...so there's some info and some tips!



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I have PCOS which is a hormonal imbalance that causes all kinds of issues with your TOM...Most women with it*not all though* are overweight, have issues with facial hair, and losing weight can be more difficult.
My body has too much of the male hormone which causes my periods to be off whack and causes me to have facial hair issues..

After losing 70 lbs, my cycle became more regular but my facial hair has not subsided. I guess Im just gonna keep tweezing away until i can afford laser hair removal... I heard that Vaniqa which is a prescription cream that is supposed to rid women of facial hair is only really affective on baby fine hair which isnt what I have. If thats what you have, then I would ask my doctor about it.
Gaining weight can cause PCOS symptoms to become more apparent so I would look into that...

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I have really obnoxious facial hair, and it seems to be getting worse. It's mostly on my chin, and it's more noticable on my upper lip now too.

I was googling around looking for alternative facial hair removal methods, and I found that it's very much linked to obesity for some fancy schmantzy scientific reasons relating to hormomes and fat or something.

How many of you girls have problems with excess facial hair growth? What do you do about it? For those that have lost considerable weight, do you find that the problem corrects itself on its own, or is this here forever?

Weight loss is not a goal, but the result of healthy habits like a better diet and regular exercise.


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