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Janeybee: I do the same, the only things I direct seed are beans, squashes and peas. Do you winter seed sow?

I planted some early pea seeds. They are sacrificial because we will have tons of rain this week and they might rot. I'll plant the rest of the peas next weekend.I pruned my roses and planted grass seed this weekend. Oh, and planted a handful of strawberry plants from runners. Still eating from the bounty we froze and canned last year. Ordered dormant oil to spray the fruit trees.

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Sounds like you REALLY have a good handle on things JANEYBEE

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I hope to start just about everything in pots, certainly tomatoes and peppers, but also squash and maybe melons. Direct seeded things tend to get molested before they have enough roots to survive even though my climate should be perfect for starting seeds. I do direct seed beets, radishes and peas and beans. As I've said before I let onions, lettuce, cilantro and parsley go to seed and it does fine where it lands. I do move some young plants around so I can space out my tomatoes and they don't seem to mind. Perhaps some things do better in the little pots because I pay more attention to my little patio nursery than the rest of the yard so the watering is more even.

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Wow, MRSLIVINGWELL, that is terrific about plastic and composting even material. I am impressed. I am so disheartened here when it come to recycling. Plastic recycling ended and so everything goes into the trash. emoticon It makes me sick.

I try and do all I can to only purchase things in glass containers and never plastic.

You are light years ahead of me. I will try and do better. Thanx for sharing.

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I have so many of those little nursery plastic pots to reuse too as I purchased quite a few plants last year.

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That sounds great! I used to make little pots to start seeds in with strips of newspaper made with a wooden press, then filled with potting mix. I don't do it much anymore as I've accumulated plenty of nursery plastic pots to reuse. I'm trying to start all my own seedlings this year though I've already bought a few that I couldn't resist.

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Well, while the lint might not be totally organic, I am not worried for three reasons. First, most of the clothes I wear (jeans and tshirts) are cotton except for the thread. How do I know this? I compost jeans and tshirts. Actually, I plant them as mulch next to vegetables that need to have soil that doesn't evaporate too quickly. 2) I am removing the seedlings before they have their second set of leaves. I will not be planting the lint ball, only the seedlings and any stray bits that hang on. and 3) I do as much as I can to be sustainable and organic--far more than anyone I personally know, so I don't get too bent out of shape about not being perfect:). For instance, I try not to buy plastic, but when I do, you can bet I'll use it 10 ways until it's unusable and then off to the landfill it goes. Not perfect, but better than most

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Mrs. Livingwell I love the way you recycle so many things for your garden. Your comment about using dryer lint for seed sprouting got my attention because unless you wash 100% cotton clothing you might be introducing non-organic material to your garden.

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We are so lucky here in the Pacific Northwest of the United States in reference to planting. We just now are recovering from a horrific ice storm that took out enormous grand old trees but on my walk yesterday things are starting already to keep budding out. Mother Nature is amazing. My heart goes out to those still without electricity, heat and in places like Texas even water.





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Today I am planting seeds that are iffy in terms of germination in random pots outside and covering the pots with plastic bags. Mini greenhouses. These pots all have dirt in them already, so easy peasy way of not wasting. I save plastic bags from potatoes, toilet paper, paper towels, etc that are clear for this. But in a pinch I will use the translucent white bags from grocery stores. I put a stick in the middle with a bottle cap (leftover from winter seed sowing) to keep the stick that is holding the bag off the soil from poking through the bag. I cut a few slits in the bag for air circulation.

As I prune my bushes and trees, I put the prunings in my garden. As I plant in the spring, they are used to mark plants or keep cutworms from tender seedlings.

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Photo of me having to shovel yet again! (not really - I don't have a beard! But if I stood in the snow piles at the end of the driveway or where it meets the sidewalks, I'd probably be buried this deep in the snow!) Can't wait for Spring when I can finally see the ground and maybe even plant!



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My kratky hydronic method experiment for germinating questionable seeds has been successful for my pepper seeds but not for my marigold seeds (which was opposite what I thought). I'll pot up the peppers, but leave one in the hydroponics.

I bought hydroponic cups, but set them in recycled 12 oz soda bottles which I cut. Some peppers germinated while covered with cotton balls, some on top of the cotton balls. I wanted to do this useing the least cost. Next experiment? germinating in dryer lint.

The one pepper plant I will continue to grow hydroponically wil be transfered from cotton balls to a hydroponic cup filled with gravel, set in the nutrient water. I did this on a windowsill, btw.

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Might as well have fun with all the snow on the ground!



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Cathy, the same thing always happens to me.



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Yesterday at the grocery store I saw some of the prettiest orange carrots you've ever laid eyes on, complete with their carrot tops. Sure enough, they were organic. I just may have to try growing me some carrots.

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The new issue of Mother Earth News has a good article about composting.

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“Composting 101: 7 Things to Remember When Making Compost.” GROWTH AS NATURE INTENDED, agverra.com/blog/making-compost/.
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Thanks. I have the stuff in a covered bin out in the garage. I think I will add some soil to it.



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One expert says the best compost is made with used coffee grounds and shredded fall leaves. I try to have a good mix of greens and browns, but not too much kitchen leavings. That can rot instead of composting in large quantities. Fresh grass clippings will heat up quickly, but if not mixed with dry stuff will make a slimy mess. At one point when I had a small yard I built 3 4x4 raised beds and dug out one square at a time and put in some kitchen leavings and covered it up. It was composted a few months later when I was ready to plant. There are lots of articles, books, podcasts and even Ted-talks about composting. Directions range from the simple to the extremely complex. Bottom line is that eventually everything will rot. It is just a matter of how soon you want it and how much you are willing to put up with.(smells and critters mostly).

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So I need to put some soil in with the stuff I am composting? I have never done anything like that composting before, only tossed some stuff in on the garden hoping it would rot into the soil. Not enough to do anything, though, and probably eaten by the rabbits anyway.



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I intended to get a half dozen bags of potting mix this weekend but the weather isn't cooperating.

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You don't have to have worms to make compost happen. The soil microbes do their things with no wiggling. If your world is frozen not much will happen now. You might try mail order if you are looking for red worms for indoors. But maybe it isn't safe to ship them if they might freeze.
I think using your big pots along the driveway is a good ideal If you want to eventually grow in the ground, you could build it up with compost over a couple of years.

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I keep forgetting that I had planned to get my soils and compost or peat during the year this year. I figured I could get more if I started in the fall and got some all year long. Haven't got the first bag of it yet.

I started some compost in a storage bin and went to find out about the worms someone mentioned. They don't get them until the middle of March. I guess what I have been putting in there won't be ready until next year instead of this year.

I was thinking of planting between my drive way and the neighbors (my strip of lawn) but was told that it would be too hard to get it dug up for a garden there, so will probably have to get dirt to put in the big pots I have still from a couple years ago. I'm thinking of putting flowers down by the sidewalk, then vegetables or herbs closer to the garage. I'll have to have some hose to go that far so I can water them.

I would also like to make some kind of watering system for the garden. I have put soaker hoses down there and they immediately get chewed on or something and wind up with large holes in them. Last year I got sprinklers and none of them went to where I wanted them to. I think I got 3 different sprinklers to go down there. Plus I need to figure out how to put a fence around it. I'm going to look into what my friend used to fence one of his off, but I will need a wire fence attached to it, too. Mark's fence looks so nice. He used 2x4s and 1x4s with the center gate having a taller top area. His fence is probably 3 feet tall.



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A couple of things I wanted have already sold out. I have a 3 day weekend coming up and I'm going to get all my stuff selected and ordered. There's enough room in my little greenhouse for anything that gets shipped early.

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Oh, my neighbor knows it's way too early for planting here. Maybe some starting indoors, but definitely not outdoors. I have to try to get some soil for the garden and maybe some compost. It needs new added in there every year, then weeds and pine cones raked out, then rototilling. Maybe he iss thinking about the rototilling, but the ground is frozen now even if we haven't had much snow.

My friend has been looking for seed groups that have what he likes to plant and grow. He said mot of the catalogss and websites he has looked at don't have what he is looking for this year. I just ordered from the Denver Urban Gardens which makes things more affordable for people. Plus I have a few seeds I saved from last year.



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Several places in East Texas already have tender plants like tomatoes and peppers for sale. I'd suggest having some water walls ready if they plant them out because winter isn't finished with us yet. But I'm looking at seeds and plants online and getting ready. I spent a few minutes weeding a small flower bed this morning, washing the mud off a gazing ball, and sitting in the sun. The sap is rising for sure!

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It is a little early in most parts of the country! You could always tell him you are deciding amongst some new varieties.

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I think my neighbor is getting anxious to get the garden going. He asked me if I had the seeds yet.



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Thank you. I will see what I can manage with that.



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Wow, I can't imagine having enough space to experiment with seedling trees. My backyard has all the trees that can reasonably fit and leave me room for veggies.

A rhizome barrier is used for controlling things like bamboo that spread underground. The root like parts are called rhizomes. Think of a metal barrier that is installed below the level that the plants spread. If you already have sprouts all over you probably need to get rid of it first and then use the barrier to prevent it from coming back. You will need someone with expertise with Chinese Elms. Watch that they don't get into your foundation and crack it.

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As soon as your sprouts have a second set of leaves, plant them in pots. They are very fragile and will pull away from the kernel easily so handle with care. For what it is worth, I always heard my grandfather say that the fruit would no come "true" if the stock had been grafted. It will be fun to find out so keep us informed.

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Janeybee: Yikes, budding already. I'd better get busy as there is still so much to prune. I keep chipping away but never done.

I want to report a HUGE success.. Last fall, or maybe starting in the summer, I put a bag of damp soil in a zip lock bag in my refrigerator drawer. Every time I had a peach or a plum, I planted the kernal (crack open the shell) in the soil to be winterized in the frig. I just looked at the bag and surprise--I have some sprouts!. Not sure what to do with them now (31 degrees and snowing). Maybe put them in my mini greenhouses like my other winter sown seeds/

My goal is to plant as many fruit and nut trees along the edge of our woods on the farm that I started myself. Some may not produce until the next generations live here (hopefully). I had a neighbor who had the BEST peach tree that came up in her compost and produced the tastiest fruit.




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What is a rhizome barrier?

The Chinese elm in my yard is at almost the farthest corner (I'm on a quarter acre), but the roots that are giving off the sprouting trees might be from it even in the front yard. I know that one of the upgrowths in front comes from the neighbor's tree because it has the spores (something like that) on the bottom of the leaves. If there is something that will stop those roots, I will use it.



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I bought a few packets of seeds over the weekend. I am excited to get started this year!!

Hope everyone has a great day!!

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Keep after it. The Chinese elm seemed headed to destroy the foundation. I remember mowing down all the sprouts. I wonder if a rhizome barrier would work for that.

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Yes, it's a Chinese elm. Nothing seems to get rid of it or the wild startups in the yard, part of which I believe are from it. Others are locusts and those are the really bad ones with 4 inch thorns. Also have wild plum. I don't know where that one came from since I don't think anywhere near here has one.



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I thought I was going to be a bit early pruning my peach tree today, but found it is already budding up. Must be the 90 degree days we had in early January.

Sounds like maybe you need to work on a permanent removal of that elm tree. Is it a Chinese Elm? I lived in a house years ago where we did nothing but fight them.

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Lack of sun might be why the lilacs are gone. I don't know when that elm tree grew up there. It wasn't planted by my parents. They had it cut down and it is now huge and grew back up in a way that took out part of the fence.

I don't think they'd get wet feet there. Maybe during the winter if we have a lot of snow, but being on a hill the water should run off.



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Columbine, bluebells, and various minor bulbs take full shade but they don't like wet feet.

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Darlene I think most wildflowers want at least some good sun. But if a lilac did well there may be enough. Or is that the reason there is no longer a lilac bush? Maybe go out every two hours and see what the sun pattern is. Or just put in some colorful lettuce that likes some shade.

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Would wildflower seeds grow up in an area that is shady? I got to thinking of the far corner of my yard (where I never go) that maybe I could toss some of those seeds down there. That or some of the pollinating plants. There was a lilac bush there a long time ago (I think only while I was in grade school), but nothing but weeds since. Just above there is where Dad had the garden, But it doesn't get any sun now with the Chinese elme that nobody could get rid of.



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Yep, birds are pretty smart! We had doves who figured out the spacing when we planted corn, and they went down the rows sticking their beaks in at just the right spot and eating the seeds we'd planted. So now we have to put netting over the whole area until the corn is up enough (if it's just sprouting they will also pull up the plant and eat the corn seed attached at the bottom, so we have to wait until it has at least 2 leaves before removing the netting).

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1/29/21 1:12 A

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I like encouraging volunteers. I have quite a few in progress.
My hopes for my hillside flowers sank a bit this morning when I looked out and saw a bird pecking out the best bits right where I had tossed the seed.

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1/28/21 11:26 A

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Myt ranchwoman: I could talk about winter seed sowing all day. It really really changed my gardening life!

I prefer using milk jugs and 2 liter bottles because they are deep enough for 4 inches of soil and plenty of room to grow above. But I use whatever I have. I've even used zip lock bags!

In the winter, I start my cole crops, onions and perennial vegetables and flowers. When it's closer to spring, I start all other vegetables and flowers.

I use this method because I can plant wherever I want without them being eaten by varmints or insects when they are tender as they are protected by plastic.

This is sooooo much cheaper than purchasing plants. Especially because I don't buy soil--just use my previous potting soil amended by compost or soil from the fertile woods. It's pretty hands off once you plant them. I duct tape the jugs.

It's not about perfect, it's about effort. Jillian Michaels


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Mt ranchwoman: I winter sow in mini greenhouses made from recycled milk jugs, 2 liter bottles, deli containers. They are outside in neat rows next to my house. They freeze/thaw and are watered mostly by the greenhouse effect, rain and some bottom watering by me.

Easy peasy.

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No more mess, lighting issues and damping off disease from trying to start seeds indoors! Plants are hardier than the ones I buy or would have started indoors.

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I see no one has answered the question about the recycled plastic for garden boxes. I don't know, but I know you can buy that decking and make them. Seems like a good side business making them.

Got back to my winter seed sowing yesterday:
4 containers of two kinds of unknown cole crops from saved seed
1 container of lovage
1 container of Nanling cutting celery

Started the rooting of two cuttings of rosemary. I'd hoped to have more starts of rosemary ready for the spring herb garden.

Scattered the chaff and stems from the seed-saved unknown cole crops in the garden for volunteer plants.

My cuttings of damaged snake plant have now rooted in water and I need to pot them up.

I started two experimental aquaponics setups to start seeds (marigold and pepper) using a water bottle, aquaponics cups and cotton balls.

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I'm feeling more optimistic about my posies. We had a nice gentle drizzle all day. Some areas got a deluge which would have washed my seeds away.

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I did seeds in one part of my back yard one year. I tried raking to get the ground where they would be able to start, then the loose ground disappeared. I just don't know how to get anything to grow there except the stickery weeds and a few dandelions. I can put container plants there, though, which are usually herbs. I even have mints (peppermint, chocolate mint, and orange mint) planted on the sides of the area beccause I thought they would spread and I'd have some coverage, but they don't. The Orange has gotten to about 1 1/2 feet, but that's all. I think I also threw some wildflower seeds out by the water department controller and they didn't take. The water department left a hollow in the ground there that I have tried to fill in but it sunk and it's hard to mow there with that metal thing sticking up to break the mower blades. I'd love to have some flowers there. It would protect the mower since I could see where it is and it would be pretty.



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