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Turns out my "half-uncle" is really my "full uncle". His DNA proves the father from Spain who raised him was NOT his dad, but my grandfather who divorced his mom 2 mo before he was born was. His two older sibs whom everyone thought were his half-sibs (including my mom) were really full siblings. That was a well-kept secret. My mom, the other brother, and of course ALL the grandparents involved are deceased. I shared the info with his younger sister (my half-very cool aunt). Her DNA proves that my step grandpa from Spain WAS her dad. More proof? My uncle's DNA is very similar to mine not his sister's. emoticon

The secrets will be revealed. Actually, no more is alive that would know why this was kept such a secret. Can you imagine being in your early 80s and find out your life was based on a lie. Sad.

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7/10/20 2:46 P

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Turns out that great grandpa Matt was born in Texas, not Missouri or Germany (the one that got me looking was born in Germany and living in Missouri). I think he and my great grandmother were living in Oklahoma when they met, got married in Missouri where her family lived, and moved back to Oklahoma since all his stepchildren lived in Oklahoma. His birth and grave are all I can find on him.

Looked up on Mom's side and can't find anything more than I had before. My grandmother, who I was named after, was named Maria instead of Mary, but There is nothing online about her that I can find. Fortunately, I have her ancestry in the book that a distant cousin did all the research on by going back to Illinois and some Missouri to get all the information. (she is the great granddaughter of my great grandmother's twin or it might have been great great, can't remember what she said).

Well, just looked up Grandma Pfeifer's dad and found a little bit on him on Family Search. I didn't think of that when I was looking last night since I couldn't find her on there. With him, it does list my grandma's mother, though, and I couldn't find her when I tried to find my grandmother (Grandma named after her mother)

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emoticon Darlene!

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Something I saw about boarding homes got me to look back at my tree at Family Search. Oh, my goodness. Someone put information on my great grandmother on there -- her parents and such. She has 2 censuses that the information came from. It wasn't on the great grandfather I was thinking about at the time, but my other great grandfather's wife. What a shock it was to see that. There is some thing on there now to try to contact people on there, so I sent a message to her. I don't know what I will get back, but hope something. I am going back and snoop some more. I didn't have grandma's dad on the list I had recently looked at.

It looks like great grandpa Hurley was born in Missouri on one census and in Illinois on another, so I am not sure what is going on there. Last time I tried to find information it said he was born in Illinois on one census and England on another (that was with Ancestry), but I never could find anything linking to England. He definitely lived in Illinois before my grandfather was born, but my grandfather was born in Cuba, Missouri.



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Wow! I had not ever imaged anyone to have such a difficult time obtaining a sample.

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Thanks Mary Ann!

My DH had sent his sample to Ancestry at least 7 times and it always came back that they needed a new sample. We called, we asked for advice, and finally he gave up. This last time he rubbed his cheeked hard before sending the sample and voila he got results. Nothing earth shaking in his DNA but nice to get it back.

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emoticon Congratulations on your find!

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I had the name of the pilot but the first name was wrong. I kept searching archives on all of the names my dad had of the crew he was with. I stumbled on to a website his son put up and found out I had his nickname not his real name. Finally got his take on the crash which perfectly fits with my dads memories.

It took a lot of digging but I am pretty tenacious.

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That's wonderful.

I knew some of my Dad's war time. He was in an anti-aircraft unit stateside. Both he and his older brother. His younger brother was in Germany and a POW. I don't know how I would get any other facts on it. We ran into a man my Dad served with one time and they were talking about the swim out into either the Gulf of Mexico or the Atlantic by Florida. I think most likely the Gulf of Mexico because they were stationed for sure in Texas. I don't know about Florida.

So how did you get the facts on your Dad?



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I had a huge breakthrough yesterday. I found collobaration on my dad's war story. This has taken years to find. I never doubted the story but I want to make sure I have accurate facts and proof. This was such a wonderful find.

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I've actually found a lot of second and 3rd cousins with Ancestry. I love it but it really is spendy. I would love to be able to keep all the information I have, including pictures and documents, and put it elsewhere. I don't know that I can.



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I found a possible difference from what I had in Grandma's Bible. My greatgrandfather was listed as Seburn Thomas Hurley, but on Family Search they had one listing as Seburn Alexander Hurley. When I clicked on that it came up with Seburn Thomas and had the information with his wife and information on her mother's side. So I am going to see if I can find anything using that name. My problem is right now I can't even look at anything else because I can't afford to pay Ancestry and everything I try to look at that says it's free has it connected to Ancestry and I have to pay to look at anything.

All my grandmother had was her husband's father and wife and their children.

I will contact my cousin and see if she can find any more. She has an Ancestry membership.



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So while I am isolated I've been spending time on Ancestry. Yesterday, I found a cousin who died of the influence and her obituary stated that no funeral would be held because of the influenza epidemic.

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And the search goes on. I didn't work on my tree yesterday as I was busy with my Artists group. I did have some kin in Oregon where I live now and I keep in touch with one cousin. She gave me all of her records long ago and so the leads have now dried up.

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1/21/20 11:00 A

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Some of my records say my relative was born on Owen AR, some say Dallas AR. Well the only Dallas AR I found was a county and the only Owen AR was a penial colony for prisoners from Kentucky and Tenn. in the middle of Dallas County. Since this mans father was born in NC, that is the right area. Guess next step is to find prison records.

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1/20/20 12:47 P

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I lived in TX 30 years and know my TX family pretty good. Now I live in AR. Yes I have family here. Trying to get to know them. Starting with where in AR. We live in a good size town and we are 2100 people. Next one over is 178 and the next one is 2, so having a town name doesn't help much. I have learned about towns that were 25,000 and the depression hit, the river trade ended or what have you and they are so happy they are up to 500 now

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That is a hoot. Love it.

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1/19/20 4:28 P

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No nick names. My dads side of the family didn't know very many male names. I can remember family cook outs where every adult male there were 5, was either Uncle Bob or Daddy to every child there

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That is really just about as bad as George Foreman naming all his boys George. He named them all George Edward Foreman so they would have something in common. LOL

Do they have nick names or anything? I find it confusing.

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My fathers oldest brother is Charles Webster the II, Pop Is Charles Webster the II and his father is Charles Webster the first. His father is Charles William the III. And they are all in the Who's Who of Texas men as CW. A lot of info in that book, but who is who?

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1/19/20 1:04 P

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I found a new Great Uncle on my mom's side. This opens up a whole new line of cousins and 2nd cousins.

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1/13/20 3:29 P

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That is why I said I was not going to get into the "where he was born" debate.



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Being the family historian I know my entire family (save one line) are recent immigrants. They came to this country to avoid famine and war. Now I have family members considering leaving again for a better life. Sigh

I do not want any politics to enter this discussion. We all have strong feelings and FaceBook is bad enough.

One of the things I love about SparkPeople is the no politics policy. If you want religion or politics there are teams for that.



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1/13/20 1:21 P

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It would not make any sense to not allow children of servicemen to be citizens.

The one parent citizen and one parent not supposedly was stopped several years ago (I don't know when). That was the arguement with Obama not being a citizen. While he claims to have been born in Hawaii, the Obamas also said he was born in Kenya (I'm not going to go into that part). If he was born in Kenya, though, if the deal with one parent a citizen makes the child a citizen is still in effect and was never changed, he would still have been a citizen in the first place because his mother was a citizen. At least if she didn't denounce her citizenship when she married his father.



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1/13/20 12:58 P

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There is a battle either brewing or going on. The layers say the constitution says if one parent it a citizen then the children are citizens. But for years the child has had the option to be a citizen before their 18th birthday, but many have fought it and won. Tromp wants ALL children, even military to register to have their birth registered before they are 3 months. He hasn't gotten very far with putting it into law. mostly, I think, because he has so many battles going on and knows this will be a big one. He says people are taking advantage of the current law and they way it is right now and children whose parents left the US to join ISIS are coming back and starting ISIS cells in the US

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MaryAlice that is amazing that they were so close. Not growing up around relatives has meant not meeting my cousins until I was older. One exception, my Aunt Elly's family visited occasionally.

I had a really cool exchange with an 8th Cousin. We share our 7th G-Grandfather. He gave me the links to his family tree so I could see his side of the family.

FancyQtr - I think if I were in any of these situations I would call the State Dept. just to be sure.

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I read a report that said something about the not a citizen if born overseas is about the adopted children, not about those born to servicemen overseas. That was a misunderstanding. I suppose it might also mean those born to a serviceman and a foreign spouse, but don't know about that. I have a friend whose mother was German married to a U.S. serviceman.



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1/12/20 6:47 P

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I talked to mom today About her family. Mom says she was very close to her cousin Tom. She said when she was 10 she announced she was going to marry her cousin Tom. Mom and Tom got married days apart. I am the oldest in my family and was born the same day has Tom oldest, also a girl. My sister, the second child in our family is 2 weeks older then Toms second, also a girl. My next sister is a few days younger then Toms third girl. And my 4th sister is a few days older then Toms forth daughter. Toms wife called it quits after the forth girl. Mom went on to have a boy and another girl.

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Fascinating family tradition. I am with you I hope people understand these changes before they lose their rights. I have a hard time understanding this type of change!!!

Funny story - I always loved British history and stories of the royal family. I now know why. According to my DNA I am at least 57% from England, Wales, and Northwestern Europe. A bit of Ireland and Scotland with Germanic thrown in for good measure. LOL

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We are all US citizens. The rules change on a regular bases, but basically the babies birth has to be registered with the pentagon. We registered my son's birth with the US embassy before he was 3 months old. Registering at the embassy, is registering at the pentagon. At the time you had to register before the babies 18th birthday. We just did it when we were in town anyway so he would never have any problems. Tromp wants to change it to the baby has to be registered before it is 3 months old and wants to make it retroactive to the children that are born to US citizens, even people in the military. If they aren't registered before they are 3 months they have to be naturized. I sure hope any of the children out there that fall into that category get to an embassy before the law is changed so they don't have to go throw that mess.

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Now that is amazing. So if I read this correctly you are English and/or American? Do you hold duel citizenship. This just fascinates me.

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This one is a little strange and more a verification. I told Mom that most of the time when a family came to America they stayed in America, but her family came over on the mayflower and spends half it's time going back and forth to England. She said yes. Since they came over on the mayflower, The oldest child and the oldest son of every other generation went back to England and had their first child. Till it was my and my brother turn, I am first born, had my first in the US and my son in a British colony. My brother had all 3 of his in the British colony. Someone forgot to tell us about the tradition and some how we came close anyway.

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Can't find any more information on my ancestors.



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I hereby challenge everyone on this team to add one new fact (big or small) to their family tree.

For instance, I added a new location that my dad lived in during his childhood. Seems he spend a good amount of time moving from on New York address to another.

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